I think the chances of them successfully making a vaccine were very low.Īnd if they DID make an effective vaccine, where would they get the means to mass produce and distribute it? As soon as word got out desperate people would raid for the vaccines and destroy any hope of efficient distribution.ĪLSO, even if everyone were vaccinated, thousands of people would still be getting torn to shreds while the infected die off. However, making a vaccine is incredibly difficult and requires hundreds of iterations, test subjects, and trials and that's when doctors have access to the best possible technology. I think, given the choice between saving the world and saving Ellie, the RIGHT answer is to save the world. “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” So Joel accepts his fate and forces Ellie into the hell on earth with him. Does he feel bad about it? Who knows, all of us sure do, but he took Tommy’s advice, “remember when we used to say people couldn’t live like this anymore, we here we are” or something like that. So did he entirely damn humanity to many more years of apocalyptic conditions with no light at the end of the tunnel? He sure did. Even that you can’t take away from Joel being able to grasp the weight of, after all, Tess is the one who convinces him to go in the name of all humanity and he clearly buys into it. He just crushed any known hope of resisting this plague at all. Here’s my take - we compare Joel to what we fantasize in a hero, with our own life and experience, but Joel and Ellie do not live in that world anymore, nobody does, and so it’s inferior to put our values upon him in this scenario.īut damn did it make for a hard to swallow ending. I just finished the game and came straight to the subreddit. I expect Ellie to be back as a Joan of Arc like protagonist facing the tough choices this time. This is an example of what can be achieved in a video game, I wish there were more games like the Last of Us, thankfully we'll have the sequel sometime next year. Society would be able to rebuild faster without the Cordyceps infecting people and spreading. From Joel's point of view he was justified, I found it horrific, but I think we're meant to. Was Joel right in killing Marlene? It seemed more primal than right or wrong. So Ellie sacrificing herself for humanity most likely would lead to the death of Joel, her father figure and best friend. Ellie's death would lead to the death of Joel, she seen Henry commit suicide after he lost Sam. He tells the convenient lie to Ellie at the end so both can move on, agree to believe a fabrication so they can survive. So in a way he was a villain at the start but by the end he's a hero to one person. He doesn't care about people, he's a misanthrope (a person who doesn't like society), he killed and stole from innocent people before he began his quest with Ellie. But he is a savior to Ellie, that's what matters to him. Joel is for sure a villain, he puts his feelings for one person above his duty to the rest of humanity. He was never going to let something like that happen again. And that is where the plot links back to the beginning. Joel becomes like a biblical character bringing his wrath down on those trying to take the one person he cares about. First time playing I hated that Marlene wanted to kill Ellie, to me the Fireflies were the good guys, the rebels fighting for a better world, so I felt let down by them.
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